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"It's like water in a toilet. You're spinning around, spinning around -- and you wind up flushing yourself down."
-- Karstens, on the hazards of getting too much advice when things are not going well.

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View Full Game Coverage "It's like water in a toilet. You're spinning around, spinning around -- and you wind up flushing yourself down."
-- Karstens, on the hazards of getting too much advice when things are not going well.

Tom Singer is a reporter for MLB.com and writes an MLBlog Change for a Nickel. He can also be found on Twitter @Tom_Singer.

Pittsburgh Pirates, Garrett Jones, Jeff Karstens, Russell Martin, James McDonald