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Inbox: Jobe vs. Painter; prospects who could rise in 2025
Inbox: Jobe vs. Painter; prospects who could rise in 2025
Hey Jim, what player or two outside of the Pipeline’s Top 100 has the upside and best chance to be ranked as a top ten Pipeline prospect a year from now would you say? Thanks!
This actually happened in 2024, with Kristian Campbell going from not making our Top 100 Prospects or Red Sox Top 30 lists at the start of the year to ending it at No. 10. We don't see rises like that happen very often, but I'll play along. The two demographics that seemingly would provide the best candidates are international signees making their U.S. debuts, or players selected in the previous Draft (a la Campbell).
Dominican shortstops Jesus Made (MIL No. 4) and Emil Morales (LAD No. 8) are two international players to watch. Made signed for $950,000 last January and batted .331/.458/.554 with six homers and 28 steals in 51 games in the Rookie-level Dominican Summer League. He has 25-25 upside, a strong arm and tools similar to Leodalis De Vries, who signed for $4.2 million with the Padres as part of the same 2024 international class and already has risen to No. 28 on the Top 100.
Morales received a higher bonus ($1.9 million) and posted even louder numbers in the DSL, slashing .342/.478/.691 and leading the league in slugging, OPS (1.169), homers (14 in 46 games), extra-base hits (25) and total bases (105). He has a similar profile to Made with a little less quickness, meaning he's more likely to move to third base in the future.
The prime 2024 Draft possibility is Rays outfielder Theo Gillen (TB No. 5), the best pure hitter in this year's prep class and the 18th overall selection. The Texas high school product could develop into a .300 hitter with 25 homers if he reaches his ceiling, and he's also a plus runner who should be an asset in center field.
If -- and it’s a very big if -- Orioles outfielder Vance Honeycutt (BAL No. 3) can make consistent contact, he could rocket toward the top of the Top 100. The 22nd overall pick out of North Carolina, he had the best tools in the college crop (well above-average raw power, speed and center-field defense, plus arm strength) but also carried a 26 percent strikeout rate during his Tar Heels career and a 43 percent K rate during his brief pro debut.
Who would you rather have on your team in 2025, Jackson Jobe or Andrew Painter?
I saw Painter -- MLB's No. 32 prospect -- earlier this month in the Arizona Fall League, where he ranked as the top prospect. The Phillies right-hander's mid-90s fastball, upper-80s slider/cutter and low-80s curveball were all weapons. He also showed feel for his 90-mph changeup and threw strikes, though he did battle his fastball command a bit -- understandable considering that he missed all of the last two seasons while dealing with an elbow injury that required Tommy John surgery.
All that said, I'd take Jobe (MLB No. 5) for 2025. The Tigers righty has a formidable fastball/slider/changeup repertoire of his own and usually fills the zone, though his control was erratic at times this season. I like Painter's stuff and command better for the long run, but Detroit should get significantly more innings out of Jobe than Philadelphia will from Painter.
Though Jobe's career high is the 95 2/3 innings he tallied in 2024, when he lost seven weeks to a hamstring injury, he should be able to work 135 next season. The Phillies will have to be more careful with Painter, with 80-100 innings a realistic workload. They'll have to manage him judiciously in order to have him available for a high-leverage role as a starter or reliever in the postseason.
I'm sure the Dodgers feel Dalton Rushing's bat is close to Major League ready, but how much work does he need defensively in left field to get the call? -- @jaredjmassey on Bluesky
Rushing's bat does look like it's ready for the big leagues. MLB's No. 39 prospect tied for second among Minor League catchers with 26 homers in 2024 while slashing .271/.384/.512 between Double-A and Triple-A. The Dodgers had him regularly play the outfield in the last two months of the Minor League season, looking for a way to get him more at-bats when he serves as Will Smith's understudy in the Majors.
Deceptively athletic and quicker than most catchers, Rushing could play an adequate left field right now. Smith made his second straight All-Star Game in 2024, but his defense slipped as he caught a career-high 121 games during the regular season and he looked exhausted during Los Angeles' World Series run.
Los Angeles could cut Smith back to 100 games at catcher and give him another 20 starts at DH, while Rushing could catch 60 games, get 40 games in left field and DH occasionally. That would keep them both fresh behind the plate and Rushing can get the job done as a sporadic left fielder. For what it's worth, Teoscar Hernández was the worst defensive left fielder in baseball in 2024, so Rushing in left won't torpedo the Dodgers' defense.
Thoughts on Tyler Black? Many had him as a 55 FV but Brewers don't seem super eager to find a place for him. Lack of defensive home where bat will play may be too much to overcome. -- @Badgermaniac on Bluesky
Everything that Badger Maniac says is true. Black is an on-base machine with the potential to hit 15-20 homers and steal 25 bags per season. But he also has fringy arm strength and less savvy in the field than he does on the bases. The Brewers tried him at second base, third base, left field and center field before deploying him mainly at first base in 2024.
A 2021 supplemental first-round pick from Wright State, Black (MIL No. 5) doesn't really fit the first-base profile. He got just six starts there for Milwaukee last summer and batted .204/.316/.245 in an 18-game trial. The Brewers don't have a clear-cut third baseman for next season, though Black's arm would be an issue.
Black's offensive game is still appealing but he may need a trade to find regular big league at-bats. His best infield fit is second base, but Milwaukee is set there with Brice Turang and Black's glove is substandard there. He's 24 years old and at a crossroads in his career.