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Showalter, Girardi, Baker on Phillies' radar

Managerial experience matters in hunt for Kapler's successor
@ToddZolecki
October 13, 2019

PHILADELPHIA -- The Phillies are wasting no time looking for their next manager. There are multiple reports that they will interview Buck Showalter and Joe Girardi as early as Monday. Dusty Baker also is expected to interview. The Phillies dismissed Gabe Kapler on Thursday following two seasons at the helm.

PHILADELPHIA -- The Phillies are wasting no time looking for their next manager.

There are multiple reports that they will interview Buck Showalter and Joe Girardi as early as Monday. Dusty Baker also is expected to interview.

The Phillies dismissed Gabe Kapler on Thursday following two seasons at the helm. Phillies managing partner John Middleton made the call after Philadelphia collapsed in each of the past two Septembers, posting a combined 20-36 record. Based on the list of candidates and the fact there is pressure on the organization to qualify for the postseason in 2020, it is expected the Phillies will hire a manager with experience.

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Showalter, 63, has 20 years as a Major League manager, including stints with the Yankees, Diamondbacks, Rangers and Orioles. He has strong ties to the Phillies front office. Club president Andy MacPhail hired Showalter in Baltimore. Phillies general manager Matt Klentak and assistant general manager Ned Rice also worked with Showalter in Baltimore. NBC Sports Philadelphia first reported that Showalter will interview.

Girardi, 54, has 11 years of managerial experience, including 10 seasons with the Yankees and one with the Marlins. He led the Yankees to the 2009 World Series championship, when they beat the Phillies in six games. The Athletic first reported that Girardi will interview.

Baker, 70, has 22 years of managerial experience, leading the Giants, Cubs, Reds and Nationals. The Chicago Tribune first reported that Baker will interview.

Klentak is heading up the search, although Middleton and MacPhail will have to sign off. But Klentak must mesh with the next manager.

“I don’t think there’s a relationship in a baseball organization more important than the manager and GM,” MacPhail said Friday. “Just the day to day. If those two aren’t simpatico, you really have issues. I believe it’s John’s and my goal that Matt go out, start the search -- at the end, he’s going to have to have the approval of John and I, just like with [Kapler]. John or I could have vetoed Gabe; we chose not to. But I can’t imagine us hiring somebody that Matt is not fully on board with and there might be a variety of guys that fit that criteria and then maybe John and I will have some influence [concerning] the guys that fit that criteria who we think might be the best fit, but it’s got to emanate from the GM.”

Todd Zolecki has covered the Phillies since 2003, and for MLB.com since 2009. Follow him on Twitter and Facebook .